Monday, March 27, 2017

The Rules of Rating on Goodreads


(Spoiler: There are none)

Recently there’s been talk about rating books without reading them. And though I personally have not rated anything before reading (not even a DNF, I think!), there really aren’t any rules concerning this. Etiquette? Maybe. But since Goodreads never defines what their ratings are for, it’s really free game.


In other words, it’s perfectly fine to rate a book without reading it. And here are some reasons why I think that’s the case:

1. As mentioned before, I don’t feel as if Goodreads does a good job defining what the star ratings are for. The most obvious is that it’s a rating of how much you liked the book. Or disliked it. Or it could be a rating of how much you don’t want to read the book. Or do want to read it. Users are allowed to use the rating system as they see fit, expanding upon it in the review section.

2. Goodreads doesn’t even add the book to your shelves as “read” after you rate it. I just tested this, and the book I rated remained on my “Want to Read” list. So okay, Goodreads obviously knows that users will rate books that aren’t necessarily something they read.

3. You might ask, why would they do that? Well that’s my next point. The fact that Goodreads even allows for the rating of books before their release date, or without even being on a certain shelf, shows that they are okay with it. Now, it might not be for the intention of deflating the rating of a problematic book, but their intentions were most likely to help with promotion. And excitement. Like I said, if they really didn’t want this to happen, they would have restricted the rating to after release, like Amazon does.


To be honest, I see Goodreads as the #1 place to find out about books. Before I joined the book community, I would rely a lot on the avg. rating to pick my books. That’s why I feel like one-starring problematic books on Goodreads is the best way to get the message out. That way, readers outside the community will avoid it because of its low rating. Of course, saying this is a bit controversial, and well, this is just how I feel about it I suppose!

Yet after saying all of that, I don’t think I would personally rate a book I haven’t read. However, I do hope my post convinces you that it’s something that’s fine to do.

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That's fair if you like rating before reading...although I honestly wouldn't do it. DNF ratings I think are cool. And like if you have a "review" (or at least an explanation!) of why you've rated a book 1 star, that's good too! But it bugs me so so bad when I see like a book that isn't coming out for 2 years be rated. Those people can't have read it or know anyone who has. Or people giving 1 star ratings because of a blurb. It'd be better if there was an "I'll never read this" option!! And like I remember, I think it was last year, there was a diverse (Jewish?) author got attacked on Goodreads and her book was being rated 1 star by so many trolls before it was even out. That's really sad. So yes 1 star ratings can point out problematic books, but they can also hurt authors who haven't done anything or are being harassed or targeted. It's all confusing and sad sometimes. 😥😥
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
Yeah I wouldn't do it either. Hahaha I feel you on that. I feel like some things are judged completely out of context, especially when it's only a blurb (that the author doesn't even write themselves).

It really is all confusing and sad, and I agree with your "I don't want to read this" option. I think people add it on shelves, but if I assume correctly, that still puts the book on your "Want to read" shelf.
The worst are the people who lowball a book they have not read in what they believe is justice, but it's sort of cyber bullying. I don't rate books I have not read. I don't even record my DNFs on GoodReads. I don't know if that book would have gotten better, because I did not finish it. It doesn't seem fair to rate part of a book. But, that's my opinion. I respect, that these authors have created something, and been brave enough to share it.
Sam @ WLABB
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
That makes sense! I don't record my ratings when I DNF a book either, because you're right, I have NO idea if I would have liked it! Also most of the time I'm just putting it on hold for later.
Love this post.

I only rate books that I've actually read, and because it's not often that I 'Did Not Finish' a book, it works out okay.
It is sad when people rate books at the lower end before they're even released, though.

Great post!
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
I used to be so good at finishing books, but then I ended up DNFing more haha. Especially these last couple of months.

Thanks Anjali!
Well, you know how I feel about this hahha. Like I get the idea behind it, but I also think that then you have 400 one-star ratings based on one or two people's ACTUAL review, you know? And sure, in some cases it may be warranted but... why not just let the actual one-star reviews speak for themselves? Why do we have this pile-on culture suddenly where if one person says it is bad, we all chime in? I mean- I am not saying to negate the person's opinion, I am just saying... let the opinion stand on its own. I think it is probably MORE powerful that way, though that is only my thoughts.

I also think it is just as annoying in reverse- when the author's friends, mom, brother, dog, sandwich artist, etc all 5 star the book, only for me to read it like "wait what is this fresh hell, why did it have a 4.6 Goodreads rating?" And then... blame the barista.
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
Hahahahha I do know! And yeah the idea is great, but I think people should look at reviews over ratings always. Though I'm not surprised that people pile on ratings, mainly for the reason I mentioned in my post. This is such a fine line, which makes sense.

omg someone's sandwich lol
It's always a fine line on these things. I don't like to rate and form opinions on books without reading them... but then I know that problematic books are a problem and we shouldn't support them and what better way to put people off than to rate it low? I don't know. It's a difficult one. I do have to say I hate when people rate books which aren't released or even finished being written yet. I wish people would at least wait until the book is available unless they've received a copy for review.

I get the logic behind rating without reading but I am someone who will always want to form my own opinion by reading first. I'll let you know if I find a book which forces me to change my mind.
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
It really is a fine line, and it's why I don't rate anything I haven't read or finished reading either. But I get why people do it, because it does seem to make an impact. If only non-book community people read reviews and not look at the average rating.
Personally I'm the same Val, I don't rate books I haven't read or books that I haven't finished either. That's just me though. I have a shelf on Goodreads that's part of my main shelves and add my NO WAY IN HELL books to that shelf. You can add books to a main shelf so others can see it for problematic reads or books with mature content even. It's still an option for those who want others to be aware of problematic content without needing to rate.

I think I'm just a Goodreads traditionalist really. I don't like positive ratings before a book had been read either.
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
Hahahah I love the name of that shelf Kelly! And yeah, I think I would definitely add a review if I see it's problematic, but I don't think I would rate it.

I used to be so confused about the positive ratings before a book came out. I guess I still am?
I totally agree with you that Goodreads needs to do something about preventing star-rating shortly after the book's release announcement. Amazon doesn't even let you review a book before it comes out. So I think it's entirely doable for Goodreads to implement such a guideline.
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
Yeah I noticed that about Amazon. And it would be nice if Goodreads did that, but I don't think people would take that well at all.
I don't rate books before I've read them, but I guess I never really thought about whether or not Goodreads wants to allow it. It seems silly to rate a book you haven't read, but I've never gotten outright mad about it. And you make some good points about why it seems like Goodreads is fine with it.
1 reply · active 427 weeks ago
Yeah it's something I haven't done and don't think I'll be doing anytime in the future, but I guess if Goodreads is okay with it, then that's okay. It's also not my problem if a book is rated lowly, so it doesn't tend to bother me that much.
Personally, I don't rate a book I haven't read, or have no intention of reading. I leave DNF reviews as blank ratings and only add a review in. It really annoys me when I see people giving books five stars before they're released. I'm not as bothered by people down-rating problematic books (which may seem hypocritical but whatever) because like you said, it might help to get the word out. For either circumstances, though, I don't really like it. It just doesn't seem fair to me? Like, I'm not going to run around telling people they shouldn't do it, but there just seems to be something ... off to me about rating a book you haven't even read one word of. >.<
I totally agree with Shannon. I think let the one star reviews by the people who actually KNOW what's going on in the book stand and boost them if you think it's important. Because the more likes a review gets, the higher it goes in the order of reviews. But rating books that aren't even out in ARC form is-- I don't even know what to say about it because it makes no sense. How can anyone be sure there's problems in the book when NO ONE has ever read it????? And low ratings on Goodreads can really hurt an author's career-- especially debut authors.

I don't know it just feels a little like "Regina George wore army pants and flip flops, so I went out and bought army pants and flip flops". It's now the cool thing to just parrot what other people say and run from drama to drama-- and I just want people to stop and THINK for themselves. Not saying there aren't exceptions-- and I'm not saying we all need to "read the book to find out for ourselves", I'm just saying people need to think before just throwing out 1 star ratings because so-and-so said to.
Yeah, it's really annoying that people rate books they haven't even read yet, or aren't even going to read. The most annoying thing though is when you add a book to your "currently reading" shelf and it adds a duplicate copy instead of the current edition on your shelves, sooo annoying ugh.

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